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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2014-09-21 02:28 am

Get your hands dirty for nominations!

Welcome to Dreamwidth dear Coalies!

You have chosen for us to move here in a vote that was like a landslide in a coal cellar.

Dreamwidth should offer you a link to the flatview in the comment section.

Our old home on LJ will close down soon, but if you want to review the good old times, here's a link back: http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/

Treat Pact

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
coalies I have a challenge if you are willing to accept it:

Set a goal for the number of treats you hope to write this year and then report back if/when you reach it. If you fail then you gotta own up to your shame.

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Alias: Blossom
Goal: 5 treats

Will report back if/when I reach it!

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The smell of fresh coal!

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really happy about this move. Thanks, mod! :)

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Aww yisssss excite

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
This move pleases me, especially since I have just moved here myself.

Things only Coalies can be proud of

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I whittled down my nominations so I will only need one sock instead of two.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
I've got four established socks so I'll be able to nominate whatever I like with room to spare. Sign ups are another story, but at least noms will go fine!

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Trick or Treat Exchange

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
anybody else playing the guessing game with the sign up summary to try and see what you'll match on? bookmarked any letters for treats?

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I have someone I hope I match with. I like their prompts and we share several fandoms. If I don't get that person, I'll probably still give them at least one trick and one treat. Then again, whoever I get, I hope to give them at least a trick and a treat.

Is there any kind of maximum for little things you can write your person? I like the idea of making like a Halloween goodie bag, and the minimum word count is so low that it'd be fun and easy to do.

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DREAMWIDTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Happiness.

Does anyone else go back and read old Coal

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
Like, 2010, 11, 12....

I just find it so fascinating.

I'll miss you, old Coal.

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I did a big re-read a couple months ago when I was getting antsy for yuletide but nothing was happening yet. Good times! I feel like there was more bitching and sniping in the early coal days, but at the same time it was less wanky overall. Maybe because there was a narrower range of opinions?

Now we roll up our sleeves and wank about everything. Basically everyone is here now, so it doesn't matter what you do or say, someone is going to think you're saying or doing it wrong.

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Inspired by the treat pact up above. How many comments do you hope to leave this year? How many kudos? Give us a ballpark figure, and you can report back after!

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I'm going to say 25 comments. IDC about kudos; I tend to leave more comments than kudos at Yuletide anyway.

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The Age Old Debate

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Off the cuff, without thinking too deeply on what you'll nominate and request, are you hoping to get shipfic or genfic this Yuletide?

If you're willing to be specific: Is your ship canon? Is the gen you want worldbuilding? Do your fandoms err on the side of being more shippy? More gen-y? Will your request put you on the other side of what your fandom usually goes for? And so on.

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Most of what I request is slash fic that's definitely not canon. I also offer gen options. Usually if people are offering the combination of characters I request, they're comfortable writing them in a pairs.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Now up. Sure there will be things to discuss.

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Okay, based on the four comments so far, I'd say the evidence post needs a basic form that goes something like,

Fandom:
Reason you are concerned it might not be considered eligible:
Reason it is actually eligible.

Because so far, these comments are bogged down in info completely irrelevant to the point of the exercise, which is, make an argument for your fandom for Yuletide. Whether Cardinal Richelieu was interesting or boring makes no difference whatsoever with regard to his eligibility for Yuletide.

I pity the mods.

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Since morbane's here and all, let's use this thread to ask her our specific questions. Like why do the mods hate comics?

Hi morbane!

Re: Morbane

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How do I know you're not morbane?

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Early Yuletide Worries

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Matching concerns? Writers/recips you don't want? Things you hope aren't in your assigned letter/optional details?

I'm just hoping I don't get blank optional details and no letter again.

Re: Early Yuletide Worries

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I tailor my requests and offers to avoid Untherius, kgal, and the Watson sisters. Anything is better than matching with them.

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Aw, please turn off the captcha. It's not like coal moves at lightning speed.

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Pretty sure it's not on. It just randomly happens sometimes.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Lets say that there is a small/midsize RPF fandom.

Let us say for a moment that you are a character in this fandom.

Is it tacky and wrong to nominate it, and yourself for yuletide? And if so should it be as a dentist, or as yourself?

If it helps, I didn't nominate the fandom previously but I want to make sure it's there.

Related: Is it tacky to offer to write RPF about yourself?

Finally: This is a modern question that was not covered by my time in drama school.

Re: Question of Etiquitte

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You should write Seanan Mcguire/Naomi Novik D/s femslash under a dentist and link it here.

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PLACE YOUR BETS!

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Is Yuletide gonna be successful this year as usual? Or are the low numbers in the comm posts a sign of things to come?

Re: PLACE YOUR BETS!

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I'm betting... 1599 signups.

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Will this cause wank?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
With nominations about to open, it's time to start solidifying your ideas for requests. If there's something you want to ask for but are worried it will land your letter here, here's the place to pre-emptively ask Coal its opinion.

Re: Will this cause wank?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
I realized halfway through drafting my letter that virtually all my ship requests involve underage or an otherwise questionable age difference - it's just a fluke based on the fandoms I chose, but I don't know whether I should BS some half-hearted gen outs or not. The best I can do with the pairings themselves is say I'd also be okay with them aged-up, which is true, but I don't want to put my author in a place where it's clear that what I really want them to write is morally questionable unless they age them up (some people are still squicked by the concept even when the characters aren't their canon ages.) The character pairings aren't ones where it's obvious people would be looking for shipfic, so it's perfectly likely I could get matched with someone who wanted to write nice gen about these characters.

Should I just go back to the drawing board and pick different fandoms? It seems a bit late now, since I'd have to figure out different nominations.

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Nominations are open!!

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
http://yuletide-admin.dreamwidth.org

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AAAAH I'M NOT READY FOR THIS.

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goddamn that's a creepy fucking icon

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
the person talking about nominating some hockey team

is it just me or is that icon really creepy? maybe it's someone famous, i dunno, but DANG

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The one with the lady rolling her eyes? That's Drucilla from BTVS. She's a crazy vampire, so the creepiness is likely intentional.

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Borderline Fandoms

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Anything you're hoping will get in? Anything you hope doesn't get in?

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Holy crap, this layout is fugly.

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I'll take it over LJ's issues any day.

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Unaired Noms

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So far I see Team Shondra got a nom for how to get away with murder... Any others???

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I hope someone tries for Gotham.

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What's different enough?

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Got an actual serious quesiton here, based on all the back-and-forth about comics characters, though it applies to other media types as well.

There's various cases where people are saying "[Superhero X] in [Less Common Title Y] is very different from his incarnation in [Mega-Popular Title Z], so he should be eligible." My question for the coal-miners is: how different does a character have to be before *you*, specifically, agree that they should count as Yuletide-eligible? Forget what Yuletide should do for practical reasons or whether the person saying that about a particular character annoys you or whatever. I'm just curious where your line is for "different enough."

I'm not sure myself. Pretending for a moment that I know anything about Star Trek... my understanding is that TOS Kirk was all yay Starfleet etc, while reboot Kirk was a juvenile delinquent (because dead father) who had to be shamed into joining up. And you can point to things like a way more antagonistic starting relationship with Spock, too. But in the end he's still the playboy captain of the Enterprise, so to me, he's nowhere near different enough, even if he were eligible. If he were a space pirate or somebody like Mal from Firefly? Then yeah, that would be enough. I guess my line is that the one-sentence description needs to show the difference. If you have to babble on for a paragraph before an outsider understands where the changes are, then nope.

What about you, coalies?

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I don't know, Morbane.

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And now Harry Potter as well...

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I seriously wish that the people trying to argue eligibility for Teen Wolf and Harry Potter would just GO AWAY. Clearly, Yuletide is not for you! You're missing the point entirely, fuck.

Re: And now Harry Potter as well...

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I kind of want to troll argue in favor of something, but I can't think of anything that great--maybe Sailor Moon Crystal (because I wouldn't exactly be sad if that somehow gets approved but don't think there is anyway it would).

Maybe Sherlock bc fuck it, let's dance... But I don't watch Sherlock so it'd be pretty obvious.

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Free nomination spots

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Nominations spots in various fandoms! FREE TO A GOOD HOME!

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I have 3 spots each in Edge of Spiderverse and Amazing Spider-Man.

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morbane

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Every time someone mentions her, I think of Morbo from Futurama. Silence, puny audience, and welcome to Yuletide! Tremble at morbane's mighty likability, as I chitchat with those who wish to nominate the wolves in the throes of pubescence.

Re: morbane

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They're not that cool.

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