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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2015-12-27 01:37 pm

Coalclaw Adventures

Keep the yulewank spirit alive

YT sins

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I have not commented on my gift yet

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3 truhs - 1 lie

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
go here

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You are faster than me, my friend. *Suspisciously eyes*

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When does the main Yuletide collection close on AO3?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
When does the main Yuletide collection close on AO3? As in, when are you no longer able to post to the collection?

I have a treat I'd like to post, but I just need to finish editing. It's more than 1k words, so I know it belongs in the main collection rather than Madness.

Re: When does the main Yuletide collection close on AO3?

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Didn't it close when it opened, so to speak? Pretty sure you can't post in either the main collection or madness anymore. We are into nyr now.

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3 lies and a truth

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I know we did this near the end of the last post. But I found it fun! Post four fics, three (semi-)random and one either written or received by you, and let people honestly review them!

Themes are optional, but amusing. Look at the last thread for examples if needed!

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Only 3 stories tagged :(
all lies

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5481680 (Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang)

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5468612 (Brooklyn Nine-Nine)

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5439839 (Goblin Emperor )

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Who is tempted and why?

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I'm pretty sure I'm going to anon my fic because at the moment I hate it. I have no idea why I thought it was good. I am getting some nice feedback, though, so I'm probably over-reacting.

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22 minutes so close

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This is the closest I've come to catching the start of a post. so close omg.

Things I learned this Yuletide

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Can be lessons learned about what (not) to do next time, or just observations in general.

Re: Things I learned this Yuletide

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SA

I learned some people really hate poetry.

And some people don't understand the correct definition of songfic.

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crunk coalies represent

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get crunk

comment on all the yulefics ok.

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Working on it.

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DNW or not DNW

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(Reposting because I posted too close to last post closing)

Coalies, I have a problem. For the sake of argument, let's say I requested Sif and Heimdall in the MCU, my request was a shipy one and Incest was one of my DNWs. I received an email from the mods asking that since Sif and Heimdall are related in some of the myths (unlike the canon were there's no reason to believe they are) would I be okay if they were in a shippy fic? What if they don't know? I said I'd prefer if they weren't but I could be okay with it if they didn't know. I was very explicit about it being a DNW if they knew.

Flash forward to my fic, with features the two as siblings which only one of them knows. The other one makes overtures to the first one but is refused. The fic doesn't technically include my DNW, I guess, but it still squirts uncomfortaby close to it.

(Add to this the focus on characters I didn't request, to the expanse of the ones I did, and I feel like my fic was not written for me but repurposed, instead.)

Should I say anything to the mods?

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It sounds like it doesn't outright violate DNWs? So it falls within the bounds of the rules. But otoh it obviously upset you, so if the only way for you to get past it is reporting to the mods, go ahead. Just know that there's probably not much they can do about it. You just had a shitty writer who didn't care much about respecting your request.

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Hamilton Recs

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Has anyone read any legitimately good Hamilton fics in the archive besides the Rise Up/Interlude one that's been recc'ed a few times? I want to read a few, but don't want to wade through 57 potentially dreckky Ham/Lauren's in college fluff/bang fests just to find out there isn't much quality there. Prefer canon or, at least, not modern AU.

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If you have any interest in the slightly common fandom pairing of Theodosia Burr/Philip Hamilton, the authors that wrote that ship this Yuletide really stepped up their game. There's one really good long one, and three shorter ones which are just as good in my opinion. Though they've gotten less notice/kudos.

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Still no comments

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I clearly sucked this year. :(

Re: Still no comments

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Commiserations, coalie.

I just very excitedly saw an e-mail hit my inbox that said "Comment on My Fic Title".

I just very excitedly clicked on the e-mail.

I just very un-excitedly read a fucking spam comment with a link to some stupid 'brokestraightboys' site...

I just very un-excitedly deleted the e-mail

I just very un-excitedly went to my fic and marked that lonely comment as spam.

le sigh

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Ask for recs for a fandom/trope. Or just post unsolicited recs of fics you think are great.

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Do late-late PHs get coal? An investigation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooookay, I clearly have too much time on my hands, but I got curious after the discussion about whether last-minute pinch hits mean recips get coal, and I went and looked at the fics that resulted from the last 10 PHs to see what was up.

This was a very scientific study, obviously.

----317 got this: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5513405 (Imperial Radch series, Brek/Seivarden Vendaai, 1059 words), which is just over the word limit but seems like a really interesting idea and has been really well received (I don’t know the fandom)

My very scientific verdict: if recip had been assigned to this writer to begin with, more time might have been great for them, but overall they got a pretty solid thing that I’d be really happy to get as a regular YT gift?

----318 got three fics. http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5522789 (12 Dancing Princesses Bhangra AU, 3515 words) seems like the standout, really lyrical and lovely.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/5409212 (Incompetent Time-Travelling Saxophone Haters, 1775 words) is a treat (so not an assigned PH) but also looks like people loved it.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/5511683 (Twelve Dancing Princesses, 2099 words). This is 1st-person POV, which I really dislike, but people who read it seemed to think it was good.

Verdict: One of the two non-treat fics could be an eventually completed placeholder (all 3 fics were posted on the 24th, so impossible to tell), but definitely would take the very good first fic over lots of non-PH YT fic, and recip got two other fics. Win.

----319 got something on December 20th which looks like either a re-assigned treat or a placeholder fic that was finally updated: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5472041 (Tsuritama, Haru/Sanada Yuki, 1,007 words), which is really sweet.

They also got this as a PH: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5513201 (The Eagle, Marcus/Esca, 5479 words). The fic is great and really in character and seems to respond exactly to the recip’s letter—long, too.

Verdict: Definitely would take this over a lot of non-PH fic; looks like recip got lucky af with that Eagle fic

----320 got this: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5517539 (Matt Cruse series, Matt Cruse/Kate DeVries) which again is just over the word count, but the person has taken the time to world-build within the universe and wrote a chemistry book excerpt that fits the fandom.

Verdict: As with 317, if recip had been assigned to this writer to begin with, more time might have been great for them, but overall they got a pretty solid thing that I’d be happy to get for YT. It’s really clever.

----321 got two PHs: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5519663 (Hellboy movies, Hellboy & Liz Sherman & Abe Sapien, 1081 words), which admittedly seems kind of like a rush job.

Recip also got this: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5514422 (Hellboy movies, Hellboy/Liz Sherman, 1485 words), which, while also short, is a funny epistolary thing.

Looks like recip's original writer finally got around to finishing the placeholder fic here: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5472302 (The Brothers Grimm, Wilhelm Grimm & Jacob Grimm)

Verdict: Original fic is a solid YT fic; looks like placeholder and subsequent PH just got recip two extra (okay) fics, which means they’re probably happy.

----322/25 was the PH that went out twice, and they got three fics:

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5521703 (Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries, Phryne/Jack, 2232 words). Really solid PH fic; might have been longer if writer had more time but still well above average for YT, I would say, and really enjoyable.

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5520533 (Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries, Phryne/Jack, 1003 words). Just over the word count but good and really sweet.

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5520530 (Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries, Phryne/Jack, 1313 words for Yuleporn). Hot and seemed to nail the recip's wishes perfectly.

Verdict: Really good haul for recip despite double PH (though she used to be kind of a BNF in bandom, which could have made a difference)

----323 got this: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5522612 (Rivers of London, Peter Grant & Thomas Nightingale, 4524 words). Don’t know the fandom but it looks like a cool idea and seems really well received, too.

Verdict: Fic definitely better than YT average; PH might have honestly saved recip from coal if original writer had tried to make deadline with crappy fic, and I’d be pleased with this

----324 got three fics (one might be a finished placeholder, but they were all posted on the 24th, so who knows).

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5469929 (Maze Runner, Minho/Thomas, 3670), longer soulmates fic that looks like it made the recip really happy and is well written.

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5517119 (The Fast the Furious, Brian/Dominic, 1296 words), tagged YT treat (so not a PH), a cool idea executed well.

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5522537 (The Fast and Furious, Brian/Dominic, 1747 words), pretty good too.

Verdict: Pretty decent haul, late PH doesn’t look like it screwed the recip

Then there were the two-post deadline PHs.

----326 was the recip with the 5 Things fic that repeated two sections. The writer went back and fixed the placeholder, and recip also got this: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5538656 (Scrotal Recall, Evie/Dylan, 7619 words).

Verdict: Only realized this existed due to 3 Truths and a Lie post upthread, but really late default seems to have resulted in a thoughtful pinch hitter writing a long fic in a tiny tiny canon (which I happen to love, yesssss). I would be totally fine with a default if it resulted in me getting this

327 got this: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2015/works/5542091(Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries, Phryne/Jack, 2748 words)

Verdict: This is so good; the tone and voices are perfect for the show. Would also be fucking thrilled if I got this, PH also seems kind of like a blessing here.

OVERALL VERDICT Statistically speaking, late late PHs seem not only to not get coal, but to often get fic that is as awesome, or more awesome, than fic they might have received from their original writer.

The two post-deadline PHs, and the The Eagle and Dancing Princesses pre-deadline PHs, are honestly all things I would have been pretty fucking stoked to get for YT. A lot of the others I would have been really happy with too, and I may be missing an UTTER GEM because I don’t know the fandom.

Coalies, that’s what I’ve got. Now I’m going to go nap so everyone has a chance to tell me I am wrong.

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Thanks for this. I'm one of the people who wrote a very late PH and I've been worrying about it so much, so it's good to hear that it wasn't coal.

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I want to install the anti-kudos script, just so I can anti-kudos the fucker who writes about LOLcats.

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I really would like Madness to stay open longer (like, at least 48 hours, but ideally maybe to New Year's Eve.) I feel like more time would mean more people could finish last minute fic to stuff in there and in turn maybe more people reading them?

I mean NYR fics are there I know, but I don't feel like anyone reads them. :-(

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