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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2014-10-18 02:28 am

The Dirty Energy Source

Do you want to make a spreadsheet about spreadsheets?
Do you still need to figure out what two other fandoms you should request beside the only one you really want fic for?
Or are you trolling ALL the letter posts for placeholders, just so you can write those people some nice, dry coal?

We want to know all about it.

Re: Canon recs by type - large women

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Emelan also has Daja, who is definitely large (not fat, but muscular from years of being a smith).

Re: Sign-up killers

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Emelan, but what the hell, I can't sign up and not request it. Besides, I don't have a third fandom I like enough.

Re: Your own Yuletide guidelines!

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
My number one rule for exchanges is to never get into a new canon just before the exchange is about to start.

12 hours of playing Long Live the Queen nonstop, I think I can safely say that I messed it up. On the other hand, I am now offering Long Live the Queen, so it totally counts as research.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
i've never understood this tbh

it always seems like ~edgy teenager misanthropy~ when someone can watch all the Saw movies but can't handle a fictional animal getting shot

Re: Brooklyn Nine Nine

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! That explains it. /aussie nonnie

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm reminded of the cat scene that everyone flipped out over in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movie. It's like seriously, out of everything that happened in the movie, THAT is what makes you most upset? Talk about skewed priorities.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Not directly, but a lot of people said they'd love anything on the list except for suicide or whatever, and well... Animal abuse was on that list, so.

I was just surprised it was included in that list in the first place. I've never seen it as a typical part of darkfic.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You can list that as a DNW and still participate in the challenge, you know. You don't have to be open to every single thing on the list.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
+10000000000

Also people that will donate money to animal charities but can't be bothered to donate to ones for children or the ill, or even give a dollar to a homeless person on the street?

Side eye to the max.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
yep

I have friends that can watch humans die and be tortured to kingdom come but will absolutely ragequit something they otherwise liked if an animal dies and I just can't understand it. I figured most people left the "animals are pure and innocent, humans are corrupt and evil and deserve what they get" mentality behind in 10th grade.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just a pretty common squick. I'm not sure what there is to understand about it.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. Yeah there's probably a cultural component then. My experience is all with the UK or US, but there are definitely differences in recommended approach to fundraising just between those two countries. (Part of that is down to cultural expectations around what should be funded centrally and what should be campaigned for, but there are also some practical differences in tax write-offs versus gift aid and so forth that can really make a difference once you get into large numbers.)

I've never had to work on something where the potential donor base was potentially global, which I guess is the case for OTW, even if it's majority American in practice.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you but you don't want to start this debate. Every time it comes up people barge in with the "it's an emotional reaction and emotions aren't rational!" and "animals are nice to me and people are mean!" circlejerk.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I, on my part, thought that the whole "People have different opinions and feelings than you, for valid reasons, and that is okay!" mentality was something you learned in the first grade.

Also, it's pretty amazing that you can read so much into my post. All I said was that I was surprised that it was on the list in the first place, and that it made me backbutton. That's it.

Anyway, I'm bowing out after posting this reply. Unlike certain people, I'm not on Coal for the wank.

Re: recs for next year - creepybadwrong m/m

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is my plan for next year. I was upset when I realised I could have nominated Berserk and DIDN'T.

Not that it's completely canonical, but it's not like you need very heavy slash goggles to see Griffith/Guts. As for screwed up, well... one of them does end up sacrificing all his friends and followers to become the devil (sort of). Fun times! :D

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Cool story! :)

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

*Shrugs* it's just a personal opinion. I dunno, I work 9-5 at an animal shelter and I've seen a lot of heartbreaking stuff; I guess living in a fairly safe community I'm a lot further removed from eye-witness violence against people?

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Sooo I did specify that was my opinion *in fics.* Real life violence against people/animals is a different thing?

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you miss the part where I said "also" or?

I'm flattered that you care about my opinion enough to get defensive, but I don't how you justify what you do or don't do in your life, fictional habits or not. It's something that I side eye and will forever remember about you if you point that out or do it around me. I'm not calling up the NSA to get your butt put on a list.

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I was one of those people. (Well, I never said "except suicide." I think I said "look, it's a list of all my favorite things" or something like that.) Animal abuse isn't actually a big thing for me but neither am I opposed to it (obviously we're talking about fiction here). Mostly because the things that really work for me are hurting sentient characters. If the animal abuse is being used to hurt a sentient character then yes, otherwise I'm not bothered by it but it doesn't particularly attract me.

But you're right, it kind of stuck out to me on that list too, in terms of not seeming like a common darkfic element.

Re: Long Live the Queen

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I think it depends on the person? Especially when you've put in hours and just want that one last storyline/last bit of background you keep missing and are growing super super frustrated. I wouldn't want to start out on the wiki, necessarily, though.

Re: Your own Yuletide guidelines!

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Naturally, though. How many people would want to know what happens post-canon? Lots, I think.

Re: weird request patterns

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
A two-sentence mention shouldn't be bloody tagged at all. That's not even a secondary pairing. I hate this ridiculous over-tagging shit. Special snowflakes who need to be warned for their NO!TP even being mentioned can fuck off.

Re: Long Live the Queen

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
NA - Depends entirely on how you play. If I hadn't had it, I would have just ended up swearing and uninstalling the game, because I am a ridiculous perfectionist. With it, I can play the game and try out different things without ending up at the point where I want to physically hurt someone.

Besides, the wiki spoils very little of the outcome of various actions. All in all, it was certainly preferable to having Elodie die by chocolate for the seventh time (don't even ask).

Re: Crueltide

(Anonymous) 2014-10-22 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Saw, can't watch/read animal cruelty (skip those scenes in American Psycho every time).

I think my squick is rooted in 'comprehension' or 'understanding'. An adult typically understands what is happening to them, and maybe has more of a chance to get away. An animal (or baby/young child - it extends there) can't.