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It's always coalest before the dawn

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Big Eden.

I want a big Pike/Dean romance where Dean thinks of Henry as a brother (or w/e) and that's why it didn't work out when they were younger, but when he moves back into town he sees Pike and....yeah, that man does something for him. Dean becomes over the top and flirty with Pike, who has never had anyone treat him like that in his life.

I wouldn't ask for it because most Yuletiders seem to love Henry/Pike and I don't. I'm not interested in Henry at all beyond thinking that he's kind of an asshole. My dream fic above would be the AU where Dean moves home and Henry doesn't. Henry can stay offscreen in NYC with his art career and closure about his Dean hangups.

I firmly believe freedom of speech should be absolute.

Lol, well I guess we found where Alex Jones has been hanging out since he was banned from Twitter.

Look, people are allowed to have standards about what can be accepted in a holiday fic exchange. I’m not normally a “Why don’t you do it yourself if you think you can do better” type of person, but seriously, if you’re so ~morally opposed~ to the idea of banning Nazi or serial killer RPF, make an exchange that allows it. It would be a better use of your time than tirelessly defending the honor of Mazis and their admirers.

I feel like everyone in The Terror has read the books and I don't care about all that level of details.

I don't offer JS&MN TV for the same reason in reverse. I want to write with the mood of the show, not the wordiness of the canon lit.

I firmly believe freedom of speech should be absolute.

The only people who like that are Fascists, because it means they get to be heard. Nobody else is out there saying stuff that needs absolute freedom of speech. Fascists will abuse the rope you've given them until they can hang you with it, and then it's no speech but their speech because everyone else is dead.

Speech is the most powerful weapon humans have. Of COURSE you need to control it because without controlling it, that is how everyone loses it. Would you rather some people have to shut up, or people are dead? Because that's literally what we're talking about here.

lawrence of arabia!!! i want schmoopy tropey shit with a side of kink :( everyone else seems like they want to write poetry or something cloaked in 9 metaphors as if the lavender code is still in effect.

In America it's definitely people being dead. There aren't the laws against hate speech like you see in Germany, only ways to prosecute if someone is directly harmed by it.

Live shows where I haven't actually seen them myself. Sorry but I'm poor and don't live in NYC! Theatre fandom ime is nitpicky and I don't want to get made fun of on FFA for having dumb prompts or writing plebeian fic that doesn't have the nuances of the performance.

Fascists want freedom of speech? In what world? They want freedom for *their* speech, not for anyone else's. That's the opposite of freedom of speech.

If you know where to look there are some relatively good bootlegs out there. I found bootlegs of almost all the musicals in the tagsets this year.

the only way their speech is heard is in a free speech context and that's why they abuse it. it's why germany, who had the biggest free speech wakeup call in recent history, clamped down on it. letting fascists have free speech led to them getting a big enough crowd to take power and put in laws so they could only have their speech. when you treat all speech like it is the same then it gives legitimacy to truly awful things and brings about bothsidesism. there is such thing as "the free market of ideas" when it comes to hate speech.

the breitbart and milos of the world circlejerk in happiness over liberals who fight for them to be heard.

Freedom of speech ends when incitemen to violence starts.

Have you got Boys in the Band and Groundhog Day, nonnie?

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there is no such thing as*

You fight them by writing letters and making phone calls so you don’t have to fight them with fists. You fight them with fists so you don’t have to fight them with knives. You fight them with knives so you don’t have to fight them with guns. You fight them with guns so you don’t have to fight them with tanks.

"people dress up like hitler and in klansmen hoods all the time at neonazi rallys."

Uh, the Klansmen stuff I get but do people really dress like Hitler at Neonazi rallies? Like, not just in SS Uniforms, but specifically with the pencil mustache and the combover? It was always my impression that Hitler's physical presence was the least imposing thing about him.

Well, the two of them who were shot to death were murder victims, at least.

They probably would if the woman in question were wearing a costume making her look exactly like Queen Victoria or someone else very famous and very dead.

One of my pet hates is how bad fandom is at distinguishing between different forms of media. I've never seen a movie or tv adaptation of a book that was so bang on to the original that a fic could be tagged with both and yet they always are.

The monarchy is largely dead, yeah. Nazism is not.

The monarchy is still sadly around and retains some power and authority. In living memory, it has not been responsible for anything near what the Nazis have been.

ayrt It's the worst! They're disambigged for a reason, let me live!

I'd love this, coalie ;_;

/actually left the movie hating Henry so I never fuck with BE fandom

But Hitler is dead. Which is why seeing someone walking down the street, specifically dressed as Hitler with all the attendant particularities of dress, style, grooming, etc., would make many people assume that it is someone dressed as Hitler for some sort of costume do.

What did Henry do? I've read some recommendations of the film, but I can't watch it because my grandfather too had a stroke and died not that long ago and I think it will upset me.

You see someone in a MAGA hat. Do you think they're being ironic, or that they are an American Nationalist?

To someone who isn't included in the cishet white male ideal of what an American Citizen, do you think the difference between the hat being ironic or serious is anything but moot when it comes to their concern for their safety?

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