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Re: ars_belli

[(Anonymous)]

... which is exactly the same argument people make about noncon and underage. Is it really different when it's a specific event and someone writes about Hurricane Maria instead of a fictional hurricane? What if we nominate a celebrity who's recently been implicated in sexual abuse for actor RPF?

Re: ars_belli

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Is it really different when it's a specific event and someone writes about Hurricane Maria instead of a fictional hurricane?

Yes. Because real people died there. Real people had their lives destroyed. Real people lost loved ones. Real people had to live for months without clean water and go hungry because they didn’t have any food. Same thing with the Holocaust. Millions of people died there. Real people? Died. Thanks to the Nazis and their supporters.

And no, it’s no the same argument against underage or noncon. This isn’t a case of banning a hypothetical that does and could happen in RL from happening in fic with fictional characters. This is a case of not wanting to have national tragedies and atrocities against humanity that happened in living memory as RPF categories. It is taking a very specific tragedy that affected particular people IRL and making them into fanfic fodder. And for the Nazi request, it was making the Holocaust victims into fanfic fodder so the person could jerk off to the idea of them dying horribly. That is the problem. I give zero fucks about your noncon Thunderbirds request or underage Baby-Sitters Club fic.

As for your hypothetical about a celebrity implicated in sexual abuse, I don’t know, but I can’t see a nomination for Rose McGowan/Harvey Weinstein RPF going to well, though.

Re: ars_belli

[(Anonymous)]

Your last point reminded of me when Paul Walker (RIP) died during the writing period. The mods offered carte blanche for author (and recips?) to default/get a PH if that bothered them. Some took it, some didn’t. Same again last year with the Spacey stuff, IIRC??

The mods care about the real fans involved and their feelings, and that was just about a fictional canon where the character lived on/didn’t commit a crime. This is always how Yuletide has been???? I prefer that way more to openness just for academic opennesses sake.

Seriously if you’re mad that people acknowledge that real life shit is real, go find a place where you don’t feel like you’re enabling censorship or whatever.