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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2018-10-22 02:16 pm

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Re: ars_belli

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
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I'm not trying to be glib here - that really is the problem. Civil rights movements throughout history have very often failed to be intersectional - feminism with women of color, Black and Chicano movements with women and gays, and so on - but equating TERFs and Nazis is very fundamentally asserting that fighting for women is just like fighting for white Aryans.

Re: ars_belli

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I get what you're saying, but a) I didn't exactly equate them, I just said I wanted them both gone and b) I fundamentally disagree with the fact that TERFs are "fighting for women", seeing as there whole point is to throw whole groups of women who don't fit in under the bus. There's a difference between feminists failing to include other groups of women (which is bad enough but can come from a place of ignorance or lack of education rather than malice) and actively fighting against a specific group of women.

Re: ars_belli

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure why you think that's what's happening here. Like, what exactly are you referring to here as "actively fighting against"? Single-sex rape shelters and sports teams?

Even if you're not "equating" them, this is some serious trivialization of Nazism and other white supremacy movements.

Re: ars_belli

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Stooooooooop trying to engage with these people. Don’t force the mod to freeze this shit or us to another post.