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Do you want to make a spreadsheet about spreadsheets?
Do you still need to figure out what two other fandoms you should request beside the only one you really want fic for?
Or are you trolling ALL the letter posts for placeholders, just so you can write those people some nice, dry coal?

We want to know all about it.

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But... what? I still don't get it. I mean, maybe you and everyone in the fandom are Very Serious Monoshippers, but why would you be completely unable to take the recipient at their word that they are a multishipper and would be equally happy to read just the M/M pairing (and whatever emotional and plot trappings accompany that) as they would to read M/M/CGF (and whatever accompanies that as well)?

I don't know the fandom, obviously, but in your Kirk/Spock/Girlfriend example, I could just, easily see you writing the Kirk/Spock portion of it without addressing the girlfriend at all?

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I could just as easily see you writing the Kirk/Spock portion of it without addressing the girlfriend at all?

Except AYRT says specifically that the prompt is along the lines of "If you do write M/M, I'd love for CGF to still be involved!" - to AYRT, I infer, this means that just writing M/M with absolutely zero CGF for this recip might easily come across as coal/unenjoyable fic, and AYRT would rather not risk blackening somebody's stocking.

I'm glad you understand the situation I'm in, coalie! u___u

AYRT

♥ I'm totally that person who has in the past blithely skipped through the sunny fields of Any, only to find that every single available letter for that fandom clearly saw an M/M ship COMPLETELY differently than I did. I'm a little more careful now, for exactly the reasons you describe - I'm not judging anybody, no one's doing canon wrong, I just don't want to end up coaling somebody.

AYRT

Yup, exactly! I also don't want to be That Guy who thinks they can convert them into seeing things my way through fic, and since their letter is the way it is, I have no idea how they ended up on their headcanon, so I can't even use it as an exercise in trying to see if the grass is greener from their side!

I really hope they match on that fandom (and get the fic of their dreams) so that our little fandom gets more fic. ANY FIC IS GOOD FIC. I WOULD LIKE MORE FIC.

Going to quote this bit from my post since it addresses the specific scenario I'm talking about and answers your second question

The letter I'm thinking of specifically, in my situation, says something like "I love M/M and M/M/CGF! If you do write M/M, I'd love for CGF to still be involved!"

As I said way back up there, if the letter was truly all/mostly M/M prompts and then an offhand mention that, hey, if you ship, M/M/F too, that's awesome, feel free to work it in there, then it wouldn't be a problem for me, because I can't work it in there, but you gave me all those other prompts so I will give you the 10k+ M/M fic of your dreams! Kirk/Spock coming right up.

But in my specific case, my Other Person wants CGF to still be involved and then gave no other details on how they see that still being possible. The letter says, "hey I ship M/M, would love for something before or after canon, I also really love M/M/F too! F is one of my favs. Actually, if you write M/M, I would love for F to be still be a part of their lives!" and I'm like. Um.

I take them at their word that they ship both, but that optional detail combined with no prompts on how they see that being possible (as if it's a given) would make me want them to have another author to give them the fic of their dreams.

Anything other than that (it isn't even a slash or het problem, if CGF was CBF I still couldn't make M/M/M happen and not make it an AU where CBF somehow had no earthly ties) and I could make it work and believe that they'd be happy with the M/M fic I would write.

If it isn't that big of a deal to you, maybe don't word it like that. If it is a big deal, make sure to keep that in there so you get a fic you like!

For the record, I was the person you promised the 10K M/M fic of my dreams to! I'm returning to the thread for the first time since yesterday. I follow your reasoning pretty well, and I think there's a difference between my hypothetical [slash prompts for A and B, called A/B my OTP, but then gave an additional prompt for a threesome involving one of the canonical girlfriends] and the second AYRT [requesting the m/m part and mentioning that they're also cool with m/m/canonical girlfriend and prompting for both; they really want the threesome, but they ALSO really want the slash].

Mine was a list of half a dozen M/M prompts and one threesome right at the bottom, which I felt confident, based on your reply to me, that you could quite merrily ignore. I specifically didn't ask for the CGF to be present in the M/Ms for reasons vaguely similar to some that you've suggested. I think there is a big difference both in wording, but also in reality/feasibility.

Does it sound like we're still on the same page?

Yours still sounds golden to me.

From how it sounds like your letter is written, I don't think you'll have a problem if your fandom is like mine where the OT3 takes some hardcore canon bending, and you really won't have any problems if your M/M/F is more Kirk/Spock/Uhura than Kirk/Spock/Girlfriend Who Ain't Ever Going Up Into Space!

In my opinion, you have nothing to worry about, and there's still a multiverse where I'm writing you 10k+ of M/M exactly according to your wonderful letter. It might even be this universe!!

High five from Earth-137. Thank you.

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