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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2015-10-25 01:22 am

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Re: God I fucking hate Zarabithia

(Anonymous) 2015-10-29 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Only because SHE started it to further her own private ship war. No one was actually doing it, she just posted everywhere claiming they were going to.

Re: God I fucking hate Zarabithia

(Anonymous) 2015-10-29 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to defend her, because she is nutso, generally, and has taken it way too far. but there were SIX Steve/Tony fics in Yuletide 2011. Six!

http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2011/works?utf8=%E2%9C%93&commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=revised_at&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=Steve+Rogers%2FTony+Stark&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=0&collection_id=1186

I remember it being a real annoyance for many people that year, and not really surprising that there was a backlash the following year.

Re: God I fucking hate Zarabithia

(Anonymous) 2015-10-29 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
but there were SIX Steve/Tony fics in Yuletide 2011. Six!

Fall 2011 was before the MCU exploded, though. Steve/Tony was a large pairing in Marvel 616 comics fandom, but still a tiny pairing in movie fandom. And sure enough, five of those six stories were for The Avengers (2012) and one for Marvel 1602, both of which were Yuletide-eligible fandoms at the time. (This was before they instituted the rule that new fandoms had to have been released before the nominations period closed.)

The Steve/Tony writers and their recipients really didn't do anything wrong.

Re: God I fucking hate Zarabithia

(Anonymous) 2015-10-29 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Was Steve/Tony even big enough to be ineligable in 616 fandom at that point? It was huge as 616 pairings go, but never exactly big.

Re: God I fucking hate Zarabithia

(Anonymous) 2015-10-29 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Well, that's a bit of an apples and oranges question, since 2011 was before they came up with the fakakta rule about how characters tagged 1000+ times are ineligible even if their nominated fandom is eligible. The fandom's eligibility was all that mattered.

But since I'm sure there were eligible Marvel 616 titles that featured both Steve and Tony in 2011, then broadly speaking: sure, Steve/Tony was eligible in comics fandom, too.