Coalifying Rounds

[heavensqueen]

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Comments

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Do you only give a crap about characters you're attracted to?

Either way, if you only request women you'll get fic about women (unless someone's an asshole and pulls a gay bashing dragon, but a vast majority of participants are not jerks like that). If you want to avoid your writer putting a lot of focus on the cast as a whole you could also say "I'd prefer any characters that weren't requested only have minor appearances if they have any at all" or something.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

I know it must blow your mind to think that some people truly do not give two shits about dudes and do not find them interesting and often in fact find them off-putting and so offensively ubiquitous to the point where they sometimes wish male characters weren't included anywhere in any media produced by anyone ever again. But hey, you learn something new every day. :)

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Nobody is saying you can't feel the way you feel about it. The point is saying that kind of thing in your letter may likely put people off from treating. That is the point of this whole thread. It's not about liking what you like for whatever reason, it's about how not to come off sounding like a jerk.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

+1 All you gotta do is put "unrequested characters" in your DNW and then the mods will even have your back.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

NA

It's not just a men vs. women problem either. I feel other nonnie's pain about unrequested ships. Sometimes, you have to be firm and say "No unrequested ships. Especially no A/B." if that's the juggernaut with the shippers who simply cannot resist inserting it everywhere.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

So what personality traits do 100% of men have that 100% of women do not, and vice versa? What character traits are irreversibly linked to gender in a way that makes men completely uninteresting to you?

I'm a woman but this "men aren't interesting" attitude always comes off as assigning specific traits and experiences onto someone just because of their gender which, yikes. I guess people who have gender-atypical traits and experiences don't exist.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh do please teach us to be as enlightened as you. You don't even see gender, right? You live in a post-patriarchal world. Some of your closest friends are probably women!

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, stop. "Gender does not dictate personality" is not the same thing as saying we live in a post-patriarchal world.

However, I am just as uncomfortable with people assigning positive characteristics to me based on my gender as I am with them assigning negative characteristics to me. I'd like to be judged as an individual, not as a gender, thanks.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

omg chill, people can be disinterested in shit and it's really not a big deal

"I do not find men interesting" =/= "men are inherently and objectively uninteresting"

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

NA

I think it has less to do with traits and more to do with male privilege that permiates men’s worldview. The patriarchy is insufferable tbh.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Stop handmaidening for men’s feelings. It’s really cool you think you’re not like other girls and all but shut the fuck up, Arya Stark.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

God, the ridiculous response to this. Not wanting to be stereotyped is catering to men and saying I'm not like other girls, apparently!

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

DA: Arya >>>> Sansa.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

...the fuck is handmaidening?

And I may not be like other girls but I'm goddamn glad I'm not you. I feel like I need a shower just having been on the same webpage as you. Yeugh.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

It's called being a dyke, genius.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Again, are you only interested in reading about characters you'd personally fuck?

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

They're not men. They're fictional characters, and they do not need you whiteknighting for them. Because they are fictional.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

What an idiotic reasoning. Are you even serious?

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

For fuck's sake, I'm not whiteknighting for fictional characters, I'm asking what exactly would make someone not care about a character specifically and only because of their gender. Y'all are really defensive over this.

If there's an explanation that doesn't involve stereotyping, I'd like to hear it. Otherwise, yeah, I'm going to be uncomfortable with people stereotyping all women, even if it's in a positive way.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

They're not women. They're fictional characters, and they do not need you whiteknighting for them. Because they are fictional.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Women have all kinds of personalities, but thanks, "hearts not parts" coalie.

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

what does this even mean

Re: What would stop you from treating a letter?

[(Anonymous)]

Do you only give a crap about characters you're attracted to?

Because of course lesbians must be attracted to all women ever, it is true, and can't at all be interested in stories about women period, attraction or not.