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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2016-12-17 08:08 pm

Rudolph the red-nosed dentist

Writing post : http://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/6728.html


Other useful links:
2016 Timeline : https://yuletide-admin.dreamwidth.org/28822.html
Collection: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2016
 

Letters post: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1274815.html
Letters DB: http://www.dennis-sellers.com/yuletide/index.html
Treat spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10Bv9vJXykH9BUgn6q5DIBliBgMWzlVpXiB9d1lNoub4/edit?usp=sharing

Yuleporn: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1276881.html
Crueltide: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1274987.html
Two for One
: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1278973.html

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Someone (you?) above said: "4.3k word and multiple length comments exist. those are long." So unless that was a typo, yes, they're talking about words.

And frankly, if you leave the same kind of comment on 1001 half-assed words as you do on 10k tailored to your likes, I probably won't bother writing 10k tailored to your likes for you. I'll keep my lovingly crafted 10k for someone who actually shows me they appreciate them.

I see you apply the same attitude to fic length as to comment length. Shortly over 1000 words doesn't necessarily mean it's half-assed, and it doesn't necessarily mean it's worse or less tailored to my likes than a 10k epic. Of course I'll make a difference in commenting on a half-assed fic and one that is beautifully crafted, but that difference is about whether I love the fic and not about word count.

If my recip comments with what feels like genuine enthusiasm, I honestly don't care if their feedback is two sentences long. There's nothing disappointing in it for me. But we clearly approach Yuletide very differently.

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure that was a typo because AO3 comments are maximum 4300 characters. 4300 words would be a pretty random, arbitrary cut-off point.

Of course a 1k fic can be amazing, but I'd still be surprised if you don't have more to say about a good 10k fic than you do about a good 1k fic. And that's just the thing - two sentences don't feel like genuine enthusiasm to me. Because if they were really enthusiastic, I'd assume they'd take more than two minutes out of their day to thank me for a fic that I put a ton of work into. It's not exactly a secret that lof of writers love long comments, so unless I know for sure that someone wrote for me who doesn't like them, I will leave a long comment to make them as happy as their fic made me.

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
And that's just the thing - two sentences don't feel like genuine enthusiasm to me. Because if they were really enthusiastic, I'd assume they'd take more than two minutes out of their day to thank me for a fic that I put a ton of work into.

Two minutes?

It often takes me half an hour to waffle over a comment of several sentences because I get worried about every word. (It's easy enough on an anon meme, but in namespace? It's a nightmare!)

If I could write two sentences of (genuine) feedback in two minutes, I'd probably also write multiple comments....

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Surprisingly your writer does not in fact know how much time you spent on your comment, and will think it more likely that you wrote your two sentences in two minutes than that you spent half an hour on it and couldn't say more than that.

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Correct. They don't know so they shouldn't assume. If they do, that is their problem.

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, for most people I know writing feedback is incredibly hard, so yes, unless the comment is "yay, thank you!" I kinda assume that they spent some time composing it.

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I've received a lot of comments that were 2-3 sentences but still incredibly generic. "I liked this fic. You write beautifully, Bob and John are so cute together! Thank you!" That does not seem like a comment that someone angsted about for half an hour because you could put that comment on literally every not horrible Bob/John fic.

I'm not one of those people who expect super long comments, but I tend not to be happy when a gift recipient can't even pick out a couple of things specific to my fic. Like quote a line they loved and say why they liked it or mention a specific scene they thought was particularly cute or funny or sexy. Especially in a longer fic.

Re: Ways in which you are petty

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
They corrected the word typo right here, dude http://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/7582.html?thread=27063966#cmt27063966