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Crouching Coalie Hidden Wanker

Yeah, I know, I have one job here, and I fail at it

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Default deadline Monday Dec 11
Assignment deadline Monday Dec 18

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"You lived through nearly every single wave of civil rights"

Not necessarily. Not every country has had the same history.

I'm ok with either, as long as the female isn't demonized in the process. I don''t know how many otherwise excellent Johnlock fics I ended up back-buttoning out of because of Mary's baby not being his.

Oh yuck. Not even in this fandom, but osmosis, and that made me cringe. I'd so much rather pretend the baby (and the whole relationship) never existed.

First I prefer it to never bash the canon relationship, or villainise the canon partner, but for the mechanics of it, it depends on the relationship to me, are the canon couple married? Do they have kids, etc? If there are kids and a long term marriage, I'd generally prefer fic to just handwave that it never happened rather than try to deal with a break-up, especially in a shorter fic, for less long term relationships, it can be just as easy to throw in something about how things just didn't work out, or the partner got a good job someplace else, anything that implies an amicable type break-up.

.. Except people use homosexual all the time.

I still can't believe that Chartreuse isn't a shade of red :(((((

*sigh* Captive Prince?

This character is smart. Very smart. So incredibly ridiculously ultra double genius that the author hits you over the head with it every paragraph. But the author can't actually include the schemes that *show* how smart the character is, you see, because he's simply too smart for her to write them.

And then he fucked her roughly and carelessly because he's a gross straight man who likes to have lots of sex and he couldn't possibly care for any women.

(Also I have never read the books (eww, problematic!) but it's not like the movies are ever wrong.)

There's a prominent established relationship in my fic, and the fact that those characters are together is pivotal to the story, but they barely even kiss. Idk what that would be classified as.

G rated shipfic. Disney isn't any less romance just because they only have a single kiss in them.

I call it . . . FOR ME. :D

(I like the non-g rated things, too, but I love just seeing a couple live their live together.)

Just because there is no sexual content doesn't mean that a story is going to be G rated.

Yes, asking for no slash for Yuletide is definitely the same as thinking that gay people are ruining our world. Well spotted.

DA

No one's objecting to 'DNW: slash'. But it's not hard to read between the lines of 'it makes me twitch spasmodically' and figure out that the person who wrote them isn't just objecting to the fic genre.

(FTR: We did have a long discussion recently about how 'dnw: slash' was terrible and was a reason for insta-default.)

someone did that for chocolate box. the author deleted it from the collection right before reveals, but "re-gifted" it on FFA

https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/242389.html?thread=1352089301#cmt1352089301

Cool? Everyone in this thread has said that if he said DNW: Slash they wouldn't blink an eye. It's his years long excellence at showing his ass that rightfully earned him the homophobe label. It's a messy DNW and it's reasonable that people find the stanning of him annoying and that they may not want to interact with him.

InB4 "There are more awful ways to be homophobic." Yes, there are. Doesn't seem like a good reason to engage with him, nevermind all the other crap he's done to people in the exchange sphere.

Cyrt

I missed that discussion, but it's still not relevant here. No one in this thread is calling the guy a homophone for not wanting slash in their gift fic, we're all objecting to his "urgh, gross" way of phrasing it. Context etc. (Plus, anything can be an insta!default. Someone recently said if recip shipped one of their NOTPs (when they matched on something else), they'd default right away. Insta!default =/= calling someone homophobic/a bigot.)

AYRT I was responding to 'no one objects to this' to point out that coal has definitely objected to this recently. It's funny that one letter gets 'dnw: slash means I would never write for you, period' and another gets 'dnw: slash is fine as long as you're not gross about it'. Where were you guys when I was in that previous thread arguing that no, it's fine to dnw: slash...

/flatmemer who hasn't participated in this thread before now

Coalies are not a hivemind. The people who are arguing that it's just the phrasing that's objectionable not the sentiment are probably not the same who said they'd insta-default on someone DNWing slash.

Though, like AYRT pointed out, people can think there's nothing objectively wrong with a DNW and still insta-default. I will insta-default on any letter with "DNW: present tense". That doesn't mean that I think recip is an awful person or that this is a DNW that should never be used, just that I have no interest in writing for them.

Where were you guys when I was in that previous thread arguing that no, it's fine to dnw: slash...

Not on coal? Didn't see the thread? Saw it but didn't care enough to get involved?

Shipfic. Once again, shipfic =/= romance.

That's the one.

I like those bits because I like seeing squee for my tiny-ass fandoms, and if they're thoughts I strongly agree or disagree with that can be useful in knowing whether they're a good fit for treating, sometimes more than actual prompts are. And the super personal details are a nice warning that they project their identity onto everything.

It's upsetting that this person teaches lit.

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