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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2017-10-11 11:05 pm

Crouching Coalie Hidden Wanker

Yeah, I know, I have one job here, and I fail at it

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Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you considered that maybe you're just on the wrong side of history? Initially bisexuals and transgendered people were excluded too and I'm sure the people who excluded them felt just as strongly about it as you do about aces.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's not and say we did. Or say we didn't. I don't care. Let's just not.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Claims about "the wrong side of history" make for a crap argument.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
So were bi, trans, and ace people part of the community from the start and have been ahistorically pushed out, or have they always been excluded until our glorious enlightened age? I've heard both.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I think aces/aros/etc are fine as an identity. I am not sure why they keep trying to shoehorn themselves in underneath the queer umbrella.

If you're ace and you want to have romantic relationships with people of the same gender, then sure, call yourself queer. If you're aro and want to fuck people of the same gender, then sure, call yourself queer. If you're ace/aro and also trans, cool, call yourself queer. But if you're cishet in all other ways than whether or not you want sex/want to have a relationship, maybe just stop trying to call yourself queer. It's not a special club you're being excluded from. FFS.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
+20000000

Being ace doesn't make a straight non-trans person queer.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I guess I'm technically "aro" - it's a useless label imo but I suppose it fits - but being a straight woman who likes to fuck men but doesn't want relationships doesn't make me queer, for fuck's sake. Or oppressed or discriminated against in any way.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Go away.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you considered that your analogy is shit?

Were you one of the asexies pissing and moaning that the Orlando PULSE shooting coverage didn't focus on you and your fellow snowflakes but instead on the mean dirty allogays?

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Please tell me this is didn't really happen D:

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
it was on tumblr, yeah. pretty gross.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

It did indeed happen, sorry. There were a number of disgusting, tone deaf Tumblr posts made right in the wake of the shooting. One post I remember not because it was the most offensive but because it made the incredibly illogical leap of logic that since Pulse was a gay club->asexuals are LGBT->there were asexuals at Pulse->it was also a hate crime against asexuals.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

http://archive.fo/hxL6F

choice quote: At least LG community CAN HAVE NIGHTCLUBS, you bet your ass there’s very few “safe spaces” for Ace

http://archive.fo/kuYKC

If anything LG allosexuals should be thanking US because of how many aroaces could be donating blood to save some shooting victims so :/


http://archive.fo/hWGn9

I love how things like this can help me weed out acephobes so I can fucjing unfollow their asses.

http://archive.fo/n4HL5

We’ll see how their gatekeeping stands up after a couple of more massacres. Maybe then they’ll learn that their gatekeeping in only making the lot of us weaker than we ought to be.

https://www.tumblr.com/dashboard/blog/gaymilesedgeworth/145941594194

no comment

http://archive.fo/zRHgB

Dome asexuals irl decided a vigil after the shooting was the appropriate time to teach gays about asexuality

http://archive.fo/K1Gk1

I can't even make this shit up.

https://lavenderdictator.tumblr.com/post/165639201355/itsstuckyinmyhead-aceava101-aphobes-are-so

No comment (warning: that post is really disgusting)




Aaaand this is just a few links that I found from some person's link roundup. I didn't see a lot of these at the time, and I saw a lot of different horrible posts instead, because they were so many horrible posts like this that we were drowning in them.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-12 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
What the fuck D: I'm really glad my Tumblr experience is very carefully curated, because I managed to miss all of this at the time.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-13 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Take particular note of this:

If anything LG allosexuals should be thanking US because of how many aroaces could be donating blood to save some shooting victims so :/

because it means "If anything, gay people should be thanking us for not being gay because we can save them with our good clean blood instead of their nasty gay blood that legally they can't donate", a.k.a., "they should be thanking us for not being victims of homophobia".

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-13 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
SA

And I saw a lot of other posts along the same lines, too.

As well as one about "Well maybe if you hadn't been excluding asexuals back in the 80s and listened to them instead, you wouldn't have all gotten AIDS!"

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-13 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Asexuals are hilarious. They whinge at the nasty allogays for excluding them, and then they come out with shit like this.

Asexuals have done jack and shit to help LGBT people. All they've done is whine.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-13 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
da

Asexuals are to the LGBT movement as MRAs are to feminism.

Re: coal and ffa?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-13 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm bisexual, and I'm sick and tired of asexuals using us as a stick to beat lesbians and gay men with. Bisexual people experience same sex attraction, and with trans people there's an overlap in a lot of cases, plus trans people have always been involved in the gay rights movement. Bisexuals and trans people have done loads to support gay men and lesbians. Asexuals have done fuck all except whine and sneer and demand to be allowed into spaces which aren't for them. They see LGBT spaces as cool little clubs and forget why they exist in the first place.

I never even had a problem with asexuals until they started demanding to be included in the LGBT umbrella and the incessant homophobia reared its ugly head.