Deliver Us From Coalptcha

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PM me if there's transphobia (or racism or homophobia etc) and I'll deal with it.

Nominations: 12th to 21st September
Sign-ups: 10th to 21st October
Assignments go out: Between 22nd and 25th October
Madness opens and prompts are visible: After assignments
Posting deadline: 18th December at 9am UTC - may be the 17th in your time zone
Story reveal: 25th December
Author reveal: 1st January

Ao3 collection: https://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2018
Letters LJ: https://yuletide.livejournal.com/1315417.html
Letters DW: https://yuletide.dreamwidth.org/139157.html
Tagset/letters app: https://tagset2018.firebaseapp.com/

Latest regular view: https://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/10641.html?page=1000
Latest flat view: https://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/10641.html?view=flat&page=1000

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly think if coal is going to be officially a place that would rather protect exclusionists and transphobes than focus on exchange wank it isn’t worth trying to salvage anymore. I believed that the majority of the community members weren’t this vile, but if they’ve overrun the place, why not splinter off? This post has really shown me that I vastly prefer dead or slow coal to active with off-topic hate coal. I know someone in the new HQ post just said they don’t want to be run out of their own community and that would be like giving it to the assholes but I don’t think I have the spoons to endure being immersed in their shit.

[(Anonymous)]

totally valid.

the yuletide threads on ffa are everything you want. people who hate ffa get mad about the mods freezing politics or ~contraversial opinions~ or holding grudges or wtf ever, but unlike in real life, if you haven't committed any ~crimes, you really have nothing to hide on ffa. it sounds like you won't have a problem with that. everything you like about coal also happens there, there's more people on ffa and coal.

if some of that stuff does bother you and you may want to be ~wanky about other fandoms/anons, don't venture into other threads. if all you care about is yuletide, just stick there.

[(Anonymous)]

FFA is really cisnormative and dismissive of concerns about other isms. I know the terfs are still there, they stick out really obviously with their bad opinions that get so much support. I wish there was a community where queer folks and people of color and anybody else who just doesn’t want those groups to have to justify being treated like human beings could safely talk about exchange wank, without having to explain whatever-ism 101 to the willfully ignorant. And flatmeme!

[(Anonymous)]

so you don’t want to just talk about yuletide? or? none of that stuff will come up if you’re talking about brainstorming or who to treat. if it does, you yell mod and they freeze. all yuletide, only yuletide.

for general talk, idk make friends? my locked twitter is me an 80 other friends who have exactly what you’re looking for. i dont think it’s possible to have that in an anon space even with mods. maybe an aggressivly maintained lgbt subreddit? idk

[(Anonymous)]

I just looked and right now the FFA Yuletide thread still has people talking about biological determinism and how trans people are the real gender essentialists. I guess what I was hoping for really isn’t possible to maintain.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, we get it, you're very persecuted.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess what I was hoping for really isn’t possible to maintain.

Yeah, you're right. Sorry but it's just unrealistic to expect a community that is thoughtful and kind towards social justice issues but also wants to anonymously stir shit about a fanfiction exchange. Not because everyone in the latter group is anti-SJ or anything like that, but because by nature a community like this will attract some unsavory sorts and most of us here would rather just ignore them and have a more active community than move to a more heavily moderated community that also might ban some wank we find amusing.

[(Anonymous)]

You wouldn't be immersed in shit if people just stopped engaging these idiots. Trolls gonna troll, it's the people who'll passionately argue with them for hundreds and hundreds of comments that keep this shit smeared all over the comm.

If you see a shitty comment, ignore it and move on, there is absolutely no point in arguing for 100+ comments.

[(Anonymous)]

It’s pretty uncomfortable when the only responses to shitty beliefs are affirming those beliefs, too.

[(Anonymous)]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that any "discussion" about these issues would fizzle in <10 comments if no one took the bait and engaged them in debate.

[(Anonymous)]

+1