Deliver Us From Coalptcha

[chock_coal_ate_bawks]

PM me if there's transphobia (or racism or homophobia etc) and I'll deal with it.

Nominations: 12th to 21st September
Sign-ups: 10th to 21st October
Assignments go out: Between 22nd and 25th October
Madness opens and prompts are visible: After assignments
Posting deadline: 18th December at 9am UTC - may be the 17th in your time zone
Story reveal: 25th December
Author reveal: 1st January

Ao3 collection: https://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2018
Letters LJ: https://yuletide.livejournal.com/1315417.html
Letters DW: https://yuletide.dreamwidth.org/139157.html
Tagset/letters app: https://tagset2018.firebaseapp.com/

Latest regular view: https://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/10641.html?page=1000
Latest flat view: https://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/10641.html?view=flat&page=1000

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Writing crackfic when it hasn't been asked for is bad form, right? And I should write something serious first and then come back to that later as a treat, even though I totally want to write it first?

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on the request, IMO. If they didn't provide any optional details and it's a cracky sort of canon, I think it's fair game. If they provided optional details that don't include anything potentially cracky, I'd go with something more serious as the main gift.

[(Anonymous)]

If there’s no indication of the recip liking crackfic, yes, probably bad form (though on a scale of one to gay bashing dragons, surprise dewclaws or picklefic it’s barely above a 1)

On the other hand, it’s probably worth you writing it first, getting it out of your system and then writing the sensible stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

You could always ask through the mods?

[(Anonymous)]

It really depends on both the tone of canon and what you consider "crackfic".

If you're writing them both as penguins or girlscout cookies or something, then it's probably better not to without a concrete request. If your definition of "crack" is much broader, you might be okay.

If it's Venom or Deadpool or something, being turned into a girlscout cookie is significantly less weird than some of the shit that happened in the comics.

[(Anonymous)]

If you’re planning to write the crackfic as a treat, why not write it first to get the idea out of the way? I agree that if they don’t think to DNW crackfic but don’t list it as a like either it probably shouldn’t be their main gift, but if you’ve got an idea and the creative impulse you might as well ride it and consider the serious gift once the zany one is out of your system.

[(Anonymous)]

Post mod, I love you. Just don't delete yt wank about racist/etc yt stories or recips/authors!

[chock_coal_ate_bawks]

I would never.

(frozen comment) Are we on FFA?

[(Anonymous)]

The url says yuletide-coal, but I'm not sure.

(frozen comment) Re: Are we on FFA?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh for the love of god. Coal will never be like ffa. Deleting trans wank doesn't make us a place where we can't be nasty.

request summary when :(

[(Anonymous)]

the pinch hits are all claimed! come on, i'm a millennial, where's my instant gratification

Re: request summary when :(

[(Anonymous)]

Hurry! /Not a millenial

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

"Is stuff being frozen that isn't trans wank but wank about freezing trans wank?"

Your answer is that it is even deleted.

(frozen comment)

[chock_coal_ate_bawks]

Wank about freezing trans wank will just turn into trans wank. Take it to therightfangirl.

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

""Is stuff being frozen that isn't trans wank but wank about freezing trans wank?"

Your answer is that it is even deleted."

This was deleted too.

Anyone want to say hello to anarchy and make a new post?

(frozen comment)

[chock_coal_ate_bawks]

Go for it.

(frozen comment) HEAVENSQUEEN

[(Anonymous)]

The wannabe mod is now deleting and freezing things based on their own tastes, including threads where people are questioning what they're doing (like https://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/10641.html?thread=37778065#cmt37778065).

Can you please make a new proper post and get rid of this person? This isn't what Coal is, and never has been.

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

It's more that you're raising a lot of hackles by freezing and deleting in a community that's used to hands-off modding. Especially by immediately freezing your own comments so nobody can directly reply to your accusations.

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

Stop making new threads about this, just let it fucking go.

Thank you post OP

[(Anonymous)]

Chock-bawks deleting trans wank is the best gift I have ever received. I am so grateful for a transphobia-free coal experience. I suggest that people who want to be transphobic can make their own post or exclusively use posts by heavensqueen, and people who don’t want that to be part of their coal experience can use posts by chock-bawks. I would absolutely use chock posts exclusively if they’re willing to save us from both capcha and transwank on the regular.

(frozen comment) Re: Thank you post OP

[(Anonymous)]

What I want is not a transphobic community, but one that does not have a mod that constantly freezes anything they don't like. If I wanted passive aggressive random freezing, I'd go to FFA.

Vote: New Post

[(Anonymous)]

New post without this post mod in time for request summary reveals?

Y/N

Re: Vote: New Post

[(Anonymous)]

N, i’ll stay TERF free.

(frozen comment) Wow.

[(Anonymous)]

You're even freezing and deleting threads that are addressed to the real mod? You can pretend all you want that you're cleaning up the transwank or whatever, but that is so not what you're doing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd make a new post (and freeze trans wank if I'm around, but not wank about wank or any of that shit), but I'd need to make a sock account and I'm on mobile now, so that's too hard for me.

(frozen comment) Haiku

[(Anonymous)]

Power hungry mod

Can't stand people saying no

Get off your high horse

(frozen comment) Re: Haiku

[(Anonymous)]

There's a new post, feel free to leave.

[coalcube]

Everyone who wants no rules can go here https://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/10789.html

The rest can stay here with some modicum of modding. Enjoy.

[(Anonymous)]

There is no win. Coal just gets more fractured and less active due to the split.

There needs to be a happy medium.

[chock_coal_ate_bawks]

You're all really gonna hate me now, because I have closing duties at my actual real job and can't babysit your dumb asses. Screening on until 7 Eastern.

[(Anonymous)]

I was actually on your side with deleting the trans wank but _coal doesn't need to be modded to the extent where you're screening comments because you can't look at the community right away. Now you're just being butthurt, let the wankers have their little fit and move on.

To Ship or Not to Ship?

[(Anonymous)]

I matched to someone whose only DNW is A/B/O, but their optional details say that they would like any story about either of the two characters requested and it doesn’t have to include both of them... I had never considered these characters as a possible pairing before but I think I could make it work. The question is, should I write the ship or do something gen involving these two?

[chock_coal_ate_bawks]

Ok, I'm done a little early, so screening is off.

I'd like to address a couple things.

1: In my many years of participating in and modding anon communities, I've only rarely seen situations where wanking about the deletion of -ist content doesn't turn into just more -ist content. That's why I froze and deleted the "wah quit being mean to transphobes" stuff.

2: Maybe I should have froze the wank instead of deleting. Honestly, my concern was prolonging captcha's appearance, but I can see that backfired. I'll try freezing instead, in the future.

Anyway, use this post or the new one; I don't care which. I'll still be checking this one to remove garbage (like the 100-some-comment thread wanking about trans people that instigated this whole mess).

[(Anonymous)]

This post didn't just die...

IT WAS MURDERED!!

Requests are live!

[(Anonymous)]

https://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2018/requests?page=1&sort_column=fandom&sort_direction=ASC and in the app

any hidden gems that didn't have letters?

Re: Requests are live!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sad because a ship that I love got a request but it's for the opposite of how I see them, which is how it's usually requested (and why I haven't written it before).

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly think if coal is going to be officially a place that would rather protect exclusionists and transphobes than focus on exchange wank it isn’t worth trying to salvage anymore. I believed that the majority of the community members weren’t this vile, but if they’ve overrun the place, why not splinter off? This post has really shown me that I vastly prefer dead or slow coal to active with off-topic hate coal. I know someone in the new HQ post just said they don’t want to be run out of their own community and that would be like giving it to the assholes but I don’t think I have the spoons to endure being immersed in their shit.

[(Anonymous)]

totally valid.

the yuletide threads on ffa are everything you want. people who hate ffa get mad about the mods freezing politics or ~contraversial opinions~ or holding grudges or wtf ever, but unlike in real life, if you haven't committed any ~crimes, you really have nothing to hide on ffa. it sounds like you won't have a problem with that. everything you like about coal also happens there, there's more people on ffa and coal.

if some of that stuff does bother you and you may want to be ~wanky about other fandoms/anons, don't venture into other threads. if all you care about is yuletide, just stick there.

New official post not by some rando demigod

[(Anonymous)]

Go here. Post here.

https://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/11092.html