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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2015-12-27 01:37 pm

Coalclaw Adventures

Keep the yulewank spirit alive

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man, I remember that god-awful request.

I skimmed through the fic a bit, with all its "hum" and "hu" and... it's a joke, right? It's making fun of it all, right? Except then you read the comments and it seems like that's not the case at all O_o

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I thought it was a joke, but the comments are taking it seriously. Including AlexSeanchai who is completely devoid of a sense of humor, who not only liked it but promised to comment more, when she's usually a one word "nice" or "thanks" type.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
sa

*they not she

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Link to the request and/or fic?

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
aayrt

Sorry, I completely forgot. http://archiveofourown.org/works/5463812

Letter link: http://alexseanchai.dreamwidth.org/1056253.html

More choice extracts:

"Gah!" Ngalyod made emphatic gestures at the caring universe. "Could one of Athena's family members manage not to be heteronormative?"

They'd signed the lease on the anniversary of the Hindenburg Exploding.

Ngalyod put some digeridoo music on the portable speakers. Nothing set the mood like Digeridoo.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
It's clearly meant to be funny, but that doesn't mean it was written in bad faith, and it's glorious.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

It is probably the funniest thing I've read in Yuletide so far. I am questioning the lack of bad faith statement though. AlexSeanchai is pretty clear that they actually believe Athena is real and asks for respect for that belief.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
And is it disrespectful? I mean...I'm trying to think how someone who doesn't share that belief could fill the prompt to the letter in any other way, frankly.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I think it's not come across as disrespectful to AlexSeanchai, but that's partly because I doubt they see anything ludicrous in the fic. Athena probably comes off best in it, so you might be right about the lack of disrespect.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
NA

I'm expecting the author to be a sock or lol_meme's account. This fill is so over the top that it's fun for people to laugh at and think it's making fun of all the caricatures therein and then you get the added 'bonus' of laughing at AS who loves it all unironically and ate it up with a spoon. If it's written by either then I think the point is for everyone else to giggle while AS is standing on the other side of the line shouting "preach!!" and then we laugh at them too.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know - I'd say writing a story that can be appreciated on two different levels in that way is a sign of fantastic writing. Laughing at someone enjoying their gift in an un-ironic way, when they got exactly what they asked for, seems like a dick move to me.

But I suppose that's what coal is for: letting our inner assholes out to play in an environment where no one needs to see it unless they opted-in to see the bitter, bitchy, dark side of human nature.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a very clunky fic, even leaving aside the Athena bits. Like, the scenes sound like they were written independently and sort of half-stitched together later; the continuity's terrible. And they just keep busting out weird lines, like the digeridoo ones.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, my thought was that it was written collaboratively for the lulz.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
da

I just wish I'd thought of doing it.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the didgeridoo line was intentional humor. Loved the whole gonzo thing.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Aha, it was written by fresne! That makes sense - she's always playing games with gender and sexuality in her omegaverse fics.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
AS is genderqueer, uses they/their pronouns, is this much of a wet blanket with SOCIAL JUSTICE written all over them, is a pagan who believes in the Greek set of gods, is all about SOCIAL JUSTICE and the list goes on. I haven't read the fic beyond the snippets posted here but it reads entirely as something AS wants wholeheartedly. The fic sounds crazy but it suits AS to a tee.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Used to be EllieMurasaki before she decided that was culturally appropriative and evil of her.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I remember that name.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Never heard of this person till now. Damn, they're embarrassing.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
Which part of someone being a genderqueer pagan who cares about social justice do you find embarrassing? Or is it just that all three at once is a bridge too far?

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
DA

honestly the only thing that strikes me as odd is believing in Greek gods, but that's probably because I don't know much about paganism.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
NA

My opinion is that if it's a part of your cultural history than it's fine. If you aren't the ethnicity/nationality for whatever your pagan religion of choice, then it is tryhard and slightly problematic, esp since people tend to choose the "cool" religions like GrecoRoman or Norse mythology and never idk African or Southeast Asian gods and hmm isn't that telling. It goes double when they pick the cool gods when claiming to care about SJ or intersectionality but are never critical about why they picked what they picked.

AS calls herself an /atheist pagan/ though, which makes her both of those things and an idiot.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
This sounds like Thomas fucking Pynchon writing very drunk.

Re: Random Thoughts You Have While Reading Through The Collection

(Anonymous) 2015-12-30 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 Excellent description! Only I'm thinking shrooms, rather than alcohol.