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heavensqueen ([personal profile] heavensqueen) wrote in [community profile] yuletide_coal2016-12-17 08:08 pm

Rudolph the red-nosed dentist

Writing post : http://yuletide-coal.dreamwidth.org/6728.html


Other useful links:
2016 Timeline : https://yuletide-admin.dreamwidth.org/28822.html
Collection: http://archiveofourown.org/collections/yuletide2016
 

Letters post: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1274815.html
Letters DB: http://www.dennis-sellers.com/yuletide/index.html
Treat spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10Bv9vJXykH9BUgn6q5DIBliBgMWzlVpXiB9d1lNoub4/edit?usp=sharing

Yuleporn: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1276881.html
Crueltide: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1274987.html
Two for One
: http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1278973.html

Is it just me or are a lot of the people on YT chat and the LJ/DW YT admin comms complete wankers?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. They do nothing but suck up to the mods and each other.

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This is why coal exists to begin with. People in namespace are jerks and/or annoying but toe the Cult of Nice line so nothing can be done about them. They've always been that way and that's why coal and the Yuletide ffa threads keep on being the best places to hang out.

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pinch hits #182-201

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
about to go out.

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Aww, there's a request for Dredd, but I saw it a long time ago and I don't know, if I could write something good even if I re-watch it right now.

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Surprised not more

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I was expecting a lot more Luke Cage fics.

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I'm not - it's a very Black show, and I can see people being uncomfortable writing that if they're not local and/or Black. A lot of the show's subtleties were lost on me as an international viewer, so I wouldn't feel like I could do well enough writing it to not ruin someone's Yuletide.

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EDIT MODE: ACTIVATED.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The amount of times my characters are saying "actually" in my fic is ACTUALLY disturbing right now.

Linguistic quirk, why can't I quit you?

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I used the same phrase 3 times in quick succession. Thank god for betas.

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The so-called solution to AO3's tag policy

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
http://yuletide-admin.livejournal.com/210194.html

"If you have posted one of the first works for a fandom tag, it may not appear on the fandom page for the Yuletide collection, or your story may appear under a related fandom. Please don’t contact AO3 Support about this.

New fandom tags will be wrangled after the collection is opened on 25th December. For most fandoms, this will be a quick process, and the stories will then be findable via the fandom list once the page cache has updated. Please note that fandoms will be canonized according to archive guidelines and some may be folded into into another fandom. Some fandoms may take longer.' The Yuletide tagmods have done their best to format the tagset tags by archive guidelines, so that they’re clear and easily wrangleable. Because of this, we encourage you to use the tag set tags when possible.

The wranglers realise that you’d prefer to know what fandoms are available as soon as the collection opens. Because of this, when we open the collection, we and they will share a list of all the unwrangled fandoms with you to ensure that people can find these stories by searching manually, even before the tags are wrangled."


...Thanks for absolutely nothing, mods. This is extremely disappointing and, quite frankly, really shitty. Wasn't obscure fandoms supposed to be the whole point of Yuletide, and now you casually let them be screwed over?

I've had fandom tags take several days to get wrangled, and only the people who thoroughly read the community posts will even know about this! The vast majority of participants won't know that the truly rare fics are missing from the fandom list, and they aren't going to check it twice later on either.

What really pisses me off is the way Morbane emphasised that we weren't to bother poor AO3 support about this.

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What's the rationale behind the whole thing, again? I seriously can't remember.

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Mod hits

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
How many mod hits does your story have? I'm at 0 and just wondering how likely it is for the mods to peek at my (finished, but rough) fix...

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Mine have 5/5/4 but I think that's more me editing things over a number of days and looking through it than the mods (all were uploaded more than a week ago).

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to claim a pinch hit WHY DID I DO THAT AAAAAAAAAH

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes but did you get the pinch hit?

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What should you do when...

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...someone requests a bunch of characters, prompts certain groups of those characters separately, but does not explicitly say "I'm okay with a story that doesn't use all of my requested characters"?

This person has requested Popular Ship A/B and Popular Ship C/D, and their prompts all angle towards one pairing or the other, not both. Is it okay to go with their prompts, or will I potentially be punished if I write their prompt but don't shoehorn the other characters in?

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I don't think you will. I don't think the mods will care if your recip doesn't.

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Ask Coal

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Questions

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So if a treat recip got defaulted on at deadline, how long should I hold off until posting the treat I wrote for them?

I'm not on the PH list. I'm fine with my fic becoming their main gift if they defaulted too or if they already have a PH author who defaults last-minute. I just don't want to deprive them of a chance to go out to the PH list if they did get defaulted on at deadline, since they are a generally Good Egg with excellent prompts.

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Write Them All coalie with an offer

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I have been attempting to keep the spreadsheet of written fandoms up to date, however, some fandoms have not been wrangled. Additionally, some fandoms have been wrangled under a different name, and I can't match them up. (It's also possible that I missed something.)

If you have written a story and posted in either the main or madness collection and do not see that fandom checked off on the spreadsheet, please feel free to fill in the google form at:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdhzzPuj2a90Uzn1p_a3TIOIV-fq-uARqXlC_w68rxSkCockQ/viewform

And I'll add it to the spreadsheet. Note that the spreadsheet is available here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s0tB-xmF4NQ2uQ1WMNbQIfbzNZRGHkULce7etSIxgps/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you!

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This is great! Thanks, coalie.

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WTF, who defaulted on Fahye at the last moment?

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Come on.

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SA. She's such a good egg, is what I mean.

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Looks like both fawatson and DigitalMeowMix were defaulted on.

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Is it just me or are some of these delayed? They seem to be coming through a lot slower now.

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Unwrangled Fandom Drabble Challenge - Last Chance!

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems like you can avoid having your unwrangled fandom be invisible in Yuletide if someone posts a drabble or other short fic to AO3 (not to the Yuletide collection) ASAP. The tag gets wrangled once a fandom appears in the main collection, and then it becomes canonical for Yuletide. This isn't guaranteed to work, but it did seem to for some people on the last coal post.

Coalies, are you writing a first-time or otherwise unwrangled fandom? Say its name and a line or two about what it is, and someone can write a drabble! (And then probably orphan it since odds are it was written from Wikipedia.)

Re: Unwrangled Fandom Drabble Challenge - Last Chance!

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There's three fics so far for "Confident - Demi Lovato (Music Video)" but it appears unwrangled. Maybe take a peek (especially if you like aggressive femslash!) and see if it moves 100 words from you?

https://youtu.be/cwLRQn61oUY

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL both watsons were defaulted on

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoops, threadfail.

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I'm kind of baffled by that one person who thinks it would be hard to write a Murray/Wawrinka fic... maybe my mind just runs too much towards the *now kiss* way of thinking.

Re: Even more pinch hits

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The batch arriving right now includes somebody I have started a treat for. If the next three days weren't going to be so crazy I'd definitely have pounced on it, but as it is, I'm gonna do my best to make sure they get a treat as well as a pinch hit.

Worst case scenario, NYR.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I went to sleep after the first batch of PHs and came back to like 60 emails and now Im having a panic attack. :p

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
... and that's probably only half of them. :(

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Last year, we had #327 by the end (including repeats that went out). We're already at #264 right now and we're only halfway through the alphabet for today's batches. Any bets on how many we'll end up with?

Re: Pinch hit madness

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If I haven't heard back about a pinch hit I asked for from the last batch then I probably didn't get it, right? I've never asked for a Yuletide pinch hit before.

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I can do one of those outstanding pinch hits, but I don't want to claim it and then get barred from taking another if it's one that I can do because I love the fandom rather than 'I know that canon I can write for it but someone else would do it better'.

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Feeling Worthless...

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I know going out as a pinch hit isn't a value judgement on either me or my requests, but my stressed out brain keeps circling back to it being evidence of exactly that.

I should probably go to bed instead of trying to edit

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I always hope I'll go out to pinch hits and get picked up by someone who likes my fandoms instead of someone who listed the one we matched on to fill out their signup. Someone wants to write for you! Someone likes your prompts enough to volunteer! Kittydesade isn't participating! It will be great!

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For those who have shaken - your hopes and fears about your gift

(Anonymous) 2016-12-18 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
If you’ve shaken your gift and seen the tags, what are your hopes and fears about what the story might be like?

I’ve shaken mine and I hope it’s by a certain author in the fandom – by the way it’s tagged, it could very well be and I’m excited by that! I’ve requested a pairing whose weird, quirky dynamic I totally love and she gets it like few others do. If it’s by someone else, I’m kind of worried that it’s going to turn out to be OOC, ATG tropey glurge and that another fave character I requested to have a large role to play in the story, a good friend of one half of the pairing, is going to get barely a mention. :/

So what do you hope, or fear, to find?

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Mine is gen, which I am okay with, but I was really hoping for slash. It's also got a couple tags that suggest it could be either cracky or glurgy, neither of which I am really okay with. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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Most-written fandoms (so far) this year

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Captive Prince - 17
Stranger Things - 17
Rivers of London - 14
Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries - 13
The Good Place - 12
Pitch - 12
Galavant - 11
Ghostbusters - 11
Killjoys - 11
Lucifer - 10
Pokemon GO - 10
Vorkosigan Saga - 10
Anne of Green Gables - 9
Black Sails - 9
The Goblin Emperor - 9
Jessica Jones - 9
Mob Psycho 100 - 9
The Queen's Thief - 9
Dangan Ronpa 3 - 8
iZombie - 8
Velvet Goldmine - 8
Wynonna Earp - 8

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Nothing anywhere near the Hamilton mega-domination from last year, thank god.

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Porn (stocking) stuffers

(Anonymous) 2016-12-19 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Hi coal, I need to pad up my sock. If people want to two truths and a lie some porn letters... The more kink and PWP-able, the better! COME AT (but not on) ME.

Re: Porn (stocking) stuffers

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SA

Anyone? When I say stocking stuffers I mean actual treat-sized treats, not madness...

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-19 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I literally just walked in the door after not having Internet access for about two and a half days due to travel, I missed the deadline. I just emailed the mods- do you think they'll still let me post my fic? I'm cleaning it up right now.

Re: FUCK FUCK FUCK

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It will have already been sent to pinch hit, but you can post it as a treat. The mods will tell you whether you'll have an extra penalty (NYR) or not.

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Suggest someone to treat!

(Anonymous) 2016-12-19 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I want to treat someone but all the requests and letters for anything I can think of that I want to write are all for happy group fic and that's just not in my wheelhouse.

Dark, existential, borderline twisted... is there anyone I can treat? It doesn't necessarily have to be Crueltide standards, but I can't stomach writing about fluffy baking time right now.

Re: Suggest someone to treat!

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Do you like Ex Machina? I had my eye on the prompts here, but I've only seen the movie once and don't have time to canon review: http://prodigy.dreamwidth.org/57333.html

The section for that film includes the sentence: "Please feel free to write creepy and fucked up fic."

Looks like they also don't have any gifts yet :(

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A Question

(Anonymous) 2016-12-19 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Are the mods done sending out pinch hits today? If I didn't go out and I don't have a gift, should I assume that my writer got an extension? I triple checked and my yuletide fic I wrote for my recipient does say that I fulfilled my assignment.

Re: A Question

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I'd suggest you ask them. Some of the mods are in yulechat, so they're not just afk.

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